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> Raziuddin Aquil, ed. Sufism and Society in Medieval India. Debates
> in Indian History and Society Series. New Delhi Oxford University
> Press, 2010. xxiv + 184 pp. $45.50 (cloth), ISBN 978-0-19-806444-2.
>
> Reviewed by Usha Sanyal (Queens University of Charlotte)
> Published on H-Asia (November, 2011)
> Commissioned by Sumit Guha
>
> The Role of Medieval Sufis in Converting Hindus
>
> This is an interesting collection of essays on aspects of Sufism
> during the twelfth through eighteenth centuries by well-known
> scholars in the field, such as K. A. Nizami, J. M. S. Baljon, and
> Simon Digby, among others. All nine essays have been published
> previously. They are brought together here, along with an
> introductory essay by Raziuddin Aquil, the editor, as part of Oxford
> University Press's Debates in Indian History and Society series.
> Thematically, many of the essays are concerned with the role of Sufis
> in the subcontinent in Islamization and conversion of Hindus to
> Islam, with the authors taking different stands on the issue.
> Subsidiary sets of issues relate to Sufis and their relation to the
> state and to possession of wealth and property, as well as relations
> between different Sufi orders and between Sufis and scholars of
> Islamic law (the ulama), language, and social class. One essay, by
> Richard M. Eaton, deals with the role of women's songs in
> transmitting Sufi ideas to illiterate villagers in the
> seventeenth-century Deccan.
>
> Aquil frames the primary concern of the book, namely, the roles that
> medieval Sufis played in the conversion of Hindus to Islam, in
> historiographic terms by focusing on the perspectives of the essay
> writers themselves. Broadly, Aquil sees three distinct scholarly
> positions: those whose "writings ... emphasize the pluralistic
> character of Indian society and the commendable role of Sufis in
> providing a practical framework for communal harmony" (essays by
> Nizami, S. A. A. Rizvi, and Carl W. Ernst, in Aquil's view, belong in
> this group); those who adopt "a more empirically sustainable approach
> even while remaining committed to the idea of secularism and such
> other virtues expected from historians in Indian academia" (in this
> group, he places the contributions by Eaton, Digby, and Muzaffar
> Alam); and those who take "a Muslim separatist position" (the only
> example in the volume is the piece by Aziz Ahmad) (p. x). On the one
> hand, Aquil expresses strong disagreement with Ahmad, writing that he
> "offers a somewhat cynical interpretation marred by his separatist
> outlook, which, in turn, was influenced by the post-Partition Muslim
> predicament in the Indian subcontinent" (p. xv). On the other hand,
> Aquil feels that Nizami, for example, is prone to making broad
> generalizations, characterizing the ulama as "conservative and
> reactionary theologians,... [leaving] the Sufis to rise to the
> occasion, releasing 'syncretic forces which liquidated social,
> ideological, and linguistic barriers' between Hindus and Muslims for
> building a 'common cultural outlook.'" In contrast, Aquil clearly
> esteems the work of those he terms "empiricist," describing the essay
> by Alam, for example, as a "balanced and empirically dense argument
> on the question of community relations" (p. xvi). Seen in this light,
> the essays not only offer different perspectives on the roles of
> Sufis in medieval India, but also illustrate different academic
> approaches, over the past fifty years, to that history.
>
> Four essays (by Nizami, Eaton, Ernst, and Digby) deal with Sufis of
> the Chishti order. Two others (by Ahmad and Rizvi) also do so, though
> more generally as part of an overview of Sufism in the medieval
> period. Why were the Chishtis so important? As Digby explains, the
> Chishtis rose to prominence during the Delhi Sultanate (1192-1398) in
> large part because they possessed the "historical advantage ... of
> ascendancy at a particular moment in the development of the capital
> city [Delhi] of a great kingdom" when "the ideologues and the
> writers"--namely, Amir Khusrau, Amir Hasan, and the historian Ziya
> al-Din Barani--expressed their allegiance to Nizam al-Din (d. 1325),
> and wrote about him in works that were widely disseminated and became
> very popular over time (p. 136). Without these panegyrists, Digby
> argues, the Chishtis would never have occupied center stage in
> Sultanate Delhi.
>
> In this context, geography was key, given that Nizam al-Din's Sufi
> hospice (_khanqah_) was located in Delhi, the capital city. Each Sufi
> shaikh claimed _wilaya_ or spiritual authority over a specific
> territory. Claims to such authority, Digby writes, were "vigorously
> and actively pursued by shaikhs in Khurasan in the eleventh and
> twelfth centuries.... In the Delhi Sultanate this notion of the
> territorial _wilayat_ of a Shaikh led, at the beginning of the
> fourteenth century, to the common identification of Shaikh
> Nizam-al-Din of the Chishti _silsila_ [Sufi order] with the
> well-being and fortunes of the capital city of Delhi and the realm
> over which it held sway" (p. 126). Although these spiritual claims
> were contested by other Sufi orders, the ulama, and the sultans
> themselves, over time Nizam al-Din's tomb-shrine in Delhi
> "permanently ... affected the historical consciousness of Muslims in
> the subcontinent and ... furthered the notion of a special position
> of the Chishti _silsila_ in the establishment of the enduring Muslim
> presence in India" (p. 127). The status and significance of the other
> "great" Chishti masters--particularly that of Mu`in al-Din (d. 1230)
> of Ajmer, the founder of the order, but others as well--were
> magnified in order to support the legend of Nizam al-Din. Here again,
> geography was significant, for Ajmer was an outpost, a frontier,
> which, once associated with the Chishti founder, became central to
> the story of India's Islamization.
>
> As Aquil points out, many of the authors disagree about the Sufis'
> role in converting the local population to Islam. Nizami argues that
> the Chishti sheikhs attracted low-caste Hindu converts in rural
> India, away from the centers of political power, by the force of
> their spirituality and egalitarianism. Focusing on the Chishti ideals
> of social service, nonpossession of material goods, pacifism and
> nonviolence, disassociation from the state, and refusal to accept
> grants of land, Nizami argues that "the early Chishti saints of India
> did not form a part of the Delhi Empire. They formed a world of their
> own. The contamination of court life could not touch their spiritual
> serenity and classless atmosphere" (p. 24).
>
> Ahmad posits a series of transformations in the different orders'
> attitudes toward Hinduism, "which begins with hostility, passes
> through a phase of co-existence and culminates in tolerance and
> understanding" (p. 47). However, the essay itself does not do a good
> job of illustrating this series of phases. While Ahmad does discuss
> differences between the attitudes of early Chishti Sufis and those
> who came after Nizam al-Din, his discussion of the Naqshbandi,
> Shattari, and Qadiri orders is rather static.
>
> Rizvi's essay is a brief overview of different historical epochs.
> Peaceful proselytization by Arab traders in Gujarat and Malabar, who
> married Hindu women and brought up their children as Muslims, was
> followed by political conquest by Muhammad bin Qasim in the eighth
> century and further conquests by subsequent sultanates. In general,
> the sultans concentrated on the tribal chieftains and Brahmins,
> hoping that converting them would lead to large-scale conversions at
> the local level. However, in Rizvi's view, this "policy was not very
> successful because most of [the] converts apostatized" (p. 57). Only
> war captives, who had no choice in the matter, converted.
>
> Rizvi includes an interesting discussion of Ismaili resistance to the
> raids and killings by Mahmud of Ghazni. He disagrees with historian
> Muhammad Habib that there was a "landslide in favour of the new
> faith" during Nizam al-Din's era (p. 59). He also disagrees with Sir
> Thomas Arnold that Sufis were responsible for the "wholesale
> conversion" of Hindus, though Mu`in al-Din "converted a large number
> of Hindus, presumably low-caste ones" (pp. 59-60). But he continues:
> "The Chishti interest in the betterment of Hindus and of the
> untouchables among them as is claimed by modern Muslims, is a figment
> of their imagination" (p. 62). Indeed, apart from the mother of Farid
> al-Din (d. 1265) and Gisu Daraz (d. 1422), who engaged in conversion,
> Rizvi believes, none of the Chishti Sufis was interested in doing so.
> The state policy of conversion was terminated by Akbar in the
> sixteenth century.
>
> Eaton's essay maintains that part of the problem with understanding
> how conversion occurred in medieval India arises from the fact that
> historians have been looking at elite, esoteric forms of Sufi
> discourse, which were never meant to be widely disseminated in
> society at large. What sense could ordinary village folk, such as
> cotton carders and barbers, possibly make of "an abstract system of
> mystical stages and states requiring an immense degree of
> intellectual and spiritual discipline" (p. 70)? To understand how
> knowledge of Islamic precepts spread beyond the limited circle of
> Sufi initiates, Eaton looks at folk literature in the medieval
> Deccan. Short poems sung by women while doing household
> chores--spinning thread, grinding food grains, rocking a child to
> sleep--touch on elements of Sufi doctrine in simple terms, in the
> vernacular Dakkani spoken by everyone. "Devotion to God and respect
> for one's _pir_" [spiritual guide] are constant themes of this
> literature (p. 73). Eaton also shows how the process of Islamization
> was furthered by women's visits to _dargahs_ (Sufi tomb complexes)
> and by their concern with childbirth and fertility more generally.
>
> Ernst deals with the question of conversion with reference to the
> Chishtis of Khuldabad, in Maharashtra (not far from Aurangabad). Like
> Eaton, he too emphasizes the elite nature of Sufi discourse in
> _malfuzat_ [anecdote collection] texts, among others. He notes that
> apart from the occasional mention of yogis, these texts make no
> mention of Hindus whatsoever. Hindus are only mentioned in a
> political context, which had no religious significance as far as
> Sufis were concerned. Ernst therefore concludes that although the
> medieval Sufis of Khuldabad lived in an Indian environment and
> adopted certain features of Indian culture, such as Indian poetry and
> the practice of eating _pan_, they lived in a world apart, one that
> was closed to most of the people around them. This argument is
> reminiscent of Nizami when he writes that the Sufis lived "in a world
> of their own," though Ernst's discussion is historically grounded in
> a way not found in Nizami (p. 24).
>
> Three essays address other Sufi orders and periods: Yohannan
> Friedmann's is excerpted from his larger study of Shaikh Ahmad
> Sirhindi (d. 1624), and argues that Sirhindi seldom talked about
> Hindus in his correspondence, indicating that he was indifferent to
> them. However, he was hostile to their participation in the Mughal
> government, and expressed these views forcefully in letters he wrote
> to Mughal officials. Baljon's essay discusses Shah Wali Allah's (d.
> 1762) views on the visitation of Sufi tomb-shrines, showing how these
> views changed over time. Because Shah Wali Allah had been brought up
> in a home where such visitation was common practice, he saw no
> objection to it initially. But in his middle years--influenced,
> Baljon writes, by the writings of Ibn Taimiyya (d. 1328)--he became
> more critical of the practice, and by the end of his life, he was
> sharply critical of it and of belief in the miraculous powers of dead
> Sufi _pirs_. But unlike Ibn Taimiyya, he never condemned the practice
> of visiting the Prophet's grave in Medina.
>
> Alam's essay, the last in the book, deals with the complex relations
> between Muslims and Hindus in Awadh in the seventeenth and eighteenth
> centuries, exploring the economic and political relations between
> Rajputs, local zamindars, and Muslim gentry in the countryside. He
> highlights the importance of the Sufi concept of _wahdat al-wujud_
> (unity of being) in Awadh, particularly as seen through the life of a
> Qadiri soldier-Sufi, Sayyid Shah Abd al-Razzaq Bansawi, who founded a
> Qadiri hospice in Bansa, near Lucknow, in the eighteenth century.
> Bansawi had cordial relations with Hindus and _malamatis _(Sufis who
> flouted the sharia), among others, though he himself, Alam believes,
> adhered strictly to the limits of the sharia. In my view, the essay
> would have been stronger if the author had included direct source
> material to illustrate his many-sided arguments, and refrained from
> the use of such labels as "liberal," "reconciliatory," "syncretism,"
> and "resilient Islam" (pp. 163, 171). These characterizations often
> marred for me an otherwise fascinating topic.
>
> Although this slim volume does a good job of illuminating academic
> discussion of the role of Indian Sufis in conversion during the
> twelfth through eighteenth centuries and particularly illustrates the
> importance of the Chishti order during the Sultanate period, I would
> critique the title _Sufism and Society in Medieval India_. The book's
> overarching concern is to explore Hindu-Muslim relations, in
> particular efforts at the conversion of Hindus by Sufis after the
> Muslim conquest of India in the twelfth century. This is a much
> narrower lens than is implied by "Sufism and Society," and one
> grounded in the contemporary, post-Partition politics of India and
> Pakistan. In a sense, then, it engages in the very dynamics that
> Aquil sees animating the work of some of the historians presented in
> the book.
>
> Citation: Usha Sanyal. Review of Aquil, Raziuddin, ed., _Sufism and
> Society in Medieval India_. H-Asia, H-Net Reviews. November, 2011.
> URL: https://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=32240
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Fw: REVIEW: Mir on Jaswant Singh _Jinnah_

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Subject: REVIEW: Mir on Jaswant Singh _Jinnah_


> Jaswant Singh. Jinnah: India, Partition, Independence. New York
> Oxford University Press, 2010. xv + 550 pp. $45.00 (cloth), ISBN
> 978-0-19-547927-0.
>
> Reviewed by Farina Mir (University of Michigan)
> Published on H-Asia (November, 2011)
> Commissioned by Sumit Guha
>
> Tempest in a Teacup?
>
> Jaswant Singh's _Jinnah_ takes up a familiar theme of late
> nationalist politics in India, in an attempt to ask an equally
> familiar question: how--or rather why--was India partitioned in 1947?
> If this historical terrain is well worn, then so is Singh's
> historiographical approach; this is unapologetically a study of high
> politics. It could only be so given Singh's description of the book
> as a political biography of Mohammad Ali Jinnah, a task that requires
> a reconsideration of the shifting relationships through the first
> half of the twentieth century between the All India Muslim League and
> the Indian National Congress (INC), on the one hand, and the colonial
> state and Indian nationalist leaders and political parties, on the
> other. These relationships, and this era of nationalist politics,
> have been well covered before in synthetic works on modern Indian and
> South Asian history, research monographs, biographies, and popular
> histories.[1] One could be excused for thinking therefore that now,
> some sixty odd years after independence, little could be added to
> existing debates. Yet the publication of Singh's _Jinnah_ resulted in
> a political firestorm in India. Singh surely appears to have treaded
> onto contentious ground with this study. But has he broken new ground
> in his analysis of Jinnah and late nationalist politics in this book?
>
> The release of _Jinnah_ in India in August 2009 (it was officially
> released in Pakistan in April 2010 ) made headlines there almost
> immediately, as the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) reacted by expelling
> Singh from the party. Had Singh been a minor player in the party,
> this would hardly have caused a ripple. But he was not; Singh was one
> of the BJP's leading politicians. Though not an ideological
> hardliner, Singh played a leading role in BJP-headed governments and
> coalitions, serving as finance minister, external affairs minister,
> and defense minister, respectively. His status in the party did not
> insulate him from public criticism, however. Arguing that the "views
> expressed by Jaswant Singh in his book ... do not represent the views
> of the party," the BJP dissociated itself from Singh's book
> immediately upon its publication. This was apparently not strong
> enough censure for some, so the following day Singh was expelled from
> the party for his portrayal of both Jinnah and Sardar Vallabhai
> Patel.[2] The latter portrayal caused Singh an additional and
> somewhat different problem, as it led the BJP government of Patel's
> home state, Gujarat, to ban the book.[3] All of this--the book's
> release, the BJP's disassociation from it, Singh's expulsion from the
> BJP, and the banning of the book in Gujarat--took place in the span
> of less than one week ( August 17 -19, 2009).
>
> If Singh's expulsion garnered immense attention, then the ban on the
> book in Gujarat led to even more widespread notoriety. But as is
> often the case with such bans (even when subsequently lifted, as this
> one was[4])--including Joseph Lelyveld's _Great Soul: Mahatma Gandhi
> and His Struggle with India_ (2011; banned in Gujarat), Taslima
> Nasrin's _Dwikhandita_ (2003; banned in West Bengal), and James
> Laine's _Shivaji: Hindu King in Islamic India_ (2003; banned in
> Maharashtra)--bans produce controversy that often obscures careful
> analysis of the books in question on their own terms. The author's
> intellectual aims get lost in the controversy of the response to the
> book. Analysis of the book's content gets skewed toward answering the
> question of whether the charges against it (or the author) are
> warranted or simply a tempest in a teacup. Leaving such questions
> aside for the moment, then, let me address how Singh's _Jinnah_ fares
> in an already crowded field.
>
> At the broadest level, _Jinnah _is about how and why India was
> partitioned at its independence from British rule. In this context,
> Singh seeks to reevaluate Jinnah's role in order to understand "how
> and why this 'ambassador of Hindu-Muslim unity', the liberal
> constitutionalist, and Indian nationalist--Mohammad Ali Jinnah,
> become[s], in Viceroy Lord Wavell's phrase, a 'Frankenstein monster',
> working to dismember that very world which had so generously created
> him?" (p. 5). Singh seeks neither to celebrate nor to demonize
> Jinnah. Rather, through a painstakingly detailed analysis of high
> politics from World War I to independence, set out in nine of the
> book's eleven chapters (2-9), Singh aims to show how Jinnah's
> politics emerged in the context of, and from his interactions and
> exchanges with, both the INC and the British. These chapters are the
> scholarly heart of this book and demonstrate Singh's considerable
> erudition. Singh is well versed in much of the secondary scholarship,
> has taken pains to examine primary sources where possible, and uses
> memoirs of both key and not-so-key players extensively to add depth
> and texture to his analysis. He revisits all of the key political
> events of the period--World War I and the Lucknow Pact, the rise of
> mass nationalism, the Simon Commission, the Nehru Report, Round Table
> Conferences, the 1936-37 provincial elections, the Cripps Mission,
> the 1945-46 elections, the Cabinet Mission, etc.--providing more
> insight in some cases than in others.
>
> The crux of Singh's copiously detailed retelling of these events is
> that contrary to claims in much of the previous scholarship, Jinnah
> was not a separatist seeking an independent state. Rather, in the
> context of democratization in India, Jinnah sought protection from
> majoritarianism, while in the endgame of empire, he was denied this
> protection for India's Muslims. Partition, Singh writes in no
> uncertain terms, was caused as much by the INC--which he describes in
> caustic terms at one point as displaying "poverty of thought, lack of
> statesmanship and absence of flexibility" (p. 226)--and the British.
> Rejecting the thesis of Jinnah as the architect of partition, Singh
> writes: "My own hypothesis is rather different; namely that the
> product-mix of British, Muslim and non-Muslim Indians (both Hindu and
> others), and not Jinnah alone, created Pakistan" (p. 384).
>
> One of the more interesting aspects of Singh's analysis of the events
> leading to the partition is his interpretation of the formation of
> INC ministries following the 1936-37 elections. He interprets the
> INC's decision to "go it alone" in the United Provinces (UP) as an
> example of precisely the kind of majoritarianism that Jinnah feared
> in an independent India: "Once it [the INC] had achieved a majority
> on its own, it then saw no need to make any concessions to electoral
> allies, numerically smaller, therefore now redundant. This was
> unalloyed majoritarianism, arguable somewhat perhaps in theory,
> disastrous in consequences" (p. 195). The INC won a majority in the
> UP elections, but Singh suggests that it had little if any legitimacy
> to claim representation of Muslims since it had fared abysmally in
> Muslim constituencies. This is one example of Singh's sustained
> criticism of the INC through this period--criticism leveled mostly at
> Jawaharlal Nehru (while Mahatma Gandhi is consistently praised), who
> Singh appears to hold in contempt. In the closing pages of the book,
> he charges Nehru with having exhibited at times "totally
> incomprehensible tactlessness ... [and] often childish impetuosity
> bordering on the na??ve." Indeed, Nehru plays a central role in
> Singh's account: "What certainly pushed the situation towards
> partition was Nehru's inability to restrain himself, to always give
> his views to the press, and in a manner that almost on every occasion
> generated huge contention and multiple controversies, wiping out all
> earlier achievements. Time and again this happened prior to
> Independence" (p. 431). Singh is certainly not the first to voice
> criticism of the INC or Nehru, nor is he the first to point out the
> INC's lack of legitimacy vis-??-vis the Muslim vote in the 1936-37
> elections.[5] What makes these positions interesting, of course, is
> Singh's subject-position as an important contemporary politician (and
> an eight-term member of Parliament).
>
> Singh's analysis of some episodes, however, is less than
> satisfactory. His depiction of the "great Calcutta killing" of
> November 1946 is a case in point. Here one sees little evidence of
> either a deep engagement with primary sources or current
> historiography. Instead, Singh provides the reader with familiar
> tropes: "Muslim hooligans got busy ... near total chaos reigned all
> over the city ... the only vehicles seen on the streets were the
> Muslim League lorries and jeeps loaded with hooligans, shouting
> pro-Pakistan slogans and inciting the mob to violence" (p. 331). Such
> a depiction is difficult to sustain in the wake of Joya Chatterjee's
> reassessment of that event away from popular tropes of it as simply a
> bloodletting by Muslims.[6] Other regrettable tropes emerge in the
> book as well, pointing to tension between its scholarly moorings
> (which include providing twenty-six appendices, mostly of primary
> source material) and its tendency toward more general political
> commentary. The latter emerges most clearly in the introduction and
> last chapter of the book, "Introduction: A Complex Beginning" and "In
> Retrospect." Both employ generalizations and statements grounded more
> in ideology than scholarly analysis. In the introduction, for
> example, Singh writes that "Islam had come to India principally with
> the invading Islamic forces" (eliding the very different history of
> Muslim migration to South India) and of Muslims "who came in those
> centuries in a frenzy of Islamic zeal destroying whatever non-Islamic
> symbol, structure or image fell their way" (p. 3). Opening his
> historical narrative of the partition with the Prophet Muhammad in
> Arabia (the first sentence of the book) and medieval Muslim invasions
> is, perhaps, not an unrelated problem. In the final chapter, one
> finds a number of statements about Pakistan for which Singh marshals
> no evidence. He writes, for example, that "a reasoning and credible
> national identity eludes it [Pakistan] still," and that "from
> becoming an Islamic state, Pakistan ultimately, again perhaps
> inevitably, had to become a 'jihadi state'" (p. 426). Both positions
> have their proponents. But here we see no argument or evidence to
> sustain these claims; they are simply pronouncements.
>
> This is a long and detailed book, and although it does not radically
> alter our understanding of how the partition came about at the level
> of high politics, it makes for interesting reading. Not--to my
> mind--because of the controversy that surrounded its publication.
> That the Gujarat government should be up in arms because Patel is not
> celebrated and the BJP leadership up in arms because Jinnah is not
> vilified are a footnote, at best. What is more compelling about the
> book is Singh's perspective. Singh's long-standing position close to
> the heart of BJP power (until this book was published, at any rate,
> though it should be noted that he has rejoined the party[7]) makes
> his perspective noteworthy and absorbing in two ways. One, he should
> be noted for his intellectual independence: Singh's narrative does
> not dovetail neatly with any nationalism, Hindutva or otherwise, and
> he presents no "party line" on Indian history. And two, although
> Singh never lays this out explicitly, contemporary politics is latent
> throughout the book--whether in raising the issue of the INC's
> secularism or speculating on how to accommodate minorities
> politically. In drawing these links, Singh provides us with insights
> about India's present as much as its past.
>
> Notes
>
> [1]. See, for example, Barbara Metcalf and Thomas Metcalf, _A Concise
> History of Modern India_, 2nd ed. (Cambridge: Cambridge University
> Press, 2006); Sugata Bose and Ayesha Jalal, 3rd ed. (New York:
> Routledge, 2011); Ayesha Jalal, _The Sole Spokesman: Jinnah, the
> Muslim League, and the Demand for Pakistan_ (Cambridge: Cambridge
> University Press, 1985); Stanley Wolpert, _Jinnah of Pakistan_ (New
> York: Oxford University Press, 1984); and Larry Collins and Dominique
> Lapierre, _Freedom at Midnight_ (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1975).
>
> [2]. "BJP Dissociates Itself from Jaswant's Book on Jinnah," _The
> Hindu_, August 18, 2009 ,
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article5085.ece ; and "BJP
> Expels Jaswant Singh," _The Hindu_, August 19, 2009 ,
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article5370.ece .
>
> [3]. "Gujarat Bans Jaswant's Book on Jinnah," _The Hindu_, August 19 ,
> 2009, http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article5794.ece .
>
> [4]. "Jaswant Hails Court Order," _The Hindu_, September 4, 2009 ,
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article15336.ece .
>
> [5]. See Mushirul Hasan, "The Muslim Mass Contact Campaign: An
> Attempt at Political Mobilisation," _Economic and Political Weekly_
> 21, no. 52 ( December 27, 1986 ): 2273-2275, 2277-2282.
>
> [6]. Joya Chatterjee, _Bengal Divided: Hindu Communalism and
> Partition, 1932-1947 _(Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1994),
> 232-233.
>
> [7]. "Jaswant Singh Rejoins BJP," _The Hindu_, June 24, 2010 ,
> access http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article483895.ece .
>
> Citation: Farina Mir. Review of Singh, Jaswant, _Jinnah: India,
> Partition, Independence_. H-Asia, H-Net Reviews. November, 2011.
> URL: https://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=30415
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Fw: H-ASIA: Seeking Chinese Films on Overseas Chinese

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From: "Frank F Conlon" <conlon@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
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Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 1:31 AM
Subject: H-ASIA: Seeking Chinese Films on Overseas Chinese


> H-ASIA
> November 5, 2011
>
> Further response re: Seeking Chinese Films on Overseas Chinese
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> From: Alex Akin <akin.alex@gmail.com>
>
> For a documentary series on the topic, see the Hong Kong television
> program Xunzhao taxiang de gushi 寻找他乡的故事. The series focuses
> on how many of these emigrants left under conditions of financial
> hardship or misapprehensions about what to expect abroad; their
> tales are generally quite depressing (for example, a shopkeeper
> in Uganda has to wear a scarf around his head because a robber
> shot off his face; his wife tearfully recounts instances of
> violent harassment. Some elderly men in the Ukraine have to grow
> their own vegetables to fend off starvation). When this was aired
> on Chinese television in San Francisco in the late 1990s my wife
> and I joked that it must have been intended as propaganda to
> prevent Mainlanders from wanting to go abroad, but in fact
> because of its HK production it is pretty evenhanded, simply
> showing the dark side of life abroad for less educated or less
> well-connected migrants. The series is in Chinese; it has
> subtitles (in characters) for the different dialects spoken by the
> emigrants. Perhaps someone out there knows if an English subtitled
> version is available.
>
> Best regards,
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> -Alexander Akin
> Bolerium Books, San Francisco
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Fw: H-ASIA: Seeking Chinese films about overseas Chinese

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Conlon" <conlon@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
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Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 1:21 AM
Subject: H-ASIA: Seeking Chinese films about overseas Chinese


> H-ASIA
> November 5, 2011
>
> Further response re: seeking Chinese films about overseas Chinese
> *****************************************************************
> From: Guo Wu <gwu@allegheny.edu>
>
> With reference to the query on Chinese films on overseas Chinese:
>
> I am thinking of a film titled "Hai, Fulanke" [Hi Frank ] (2002)
> directed by Huang Shuqin. The film is about an old Chinese woman
> visiting her children living in the US and a series of cultural
> shocks and miscommunication she has to face.
>
> A Hong Kong 182-part long documentary titled "Xunzhao taxiang
> de gushi" (Stories from Afar) (1997) provides a comprehensive review
> of contemporary overseas Chinese survival and life stories in over
> 50 countries around the world.
>
> A 1990 Hong Kong film Ai zai biexiang de jijie [Farewell China]
> starring Maggie Chueng and Tony Leung Kar-fai tells the story of a
> husband tracking his missing wife who went to New York from
> mainland China but never returned.
>
> Guo Wu
> History Department
> Allegheny College
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Fw: New comment on "Books on Christnity & Theology,"

 
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From: Theology
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 4:49 AM
Subject: New comment on "Books on Christnity & Theology,"

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Thank-you Bruce. Notice the subtext to web page: "building the creation model"

This subtext says it all. It indicates there is a per-conceived model, and we are going to look for evidence to support this model. In other words, if we find data that contradicts that model, we are going to ignore it.

Now, I am the first to admit that I do the same thing. We all do. But the issue for theology, do we really want to build our relationship with God on shifting sand?

What do I mean by this? It is nicely illustrated in the story: "Neutrinos to Audition for "The Universe has Talent" Competition," where a person of faith proposes to substantiate his faith in God on the speed of light. See
http://www.explorethegap.net/ExploretheGapBlogPage.html

I see such posturing as not only not advisable but dangerous. Dangerous to our society because it builds a God that is limited. It creates a limited framework int which people of science can develop a worldview in which God plays a role.

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Fw: New comment on "Books on Christnity & Theology,"

 
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@Lee:
"I see such posturing as not only not advisable but dangerous. Dangerous to our society because it builds a God that is limited. It creates a limited framework int which people of science can develop a worldview in which God plays a role."

I agree with the " ...a God that is limited." statement. I feel that creationist "scientists" don't give God credit, authenticity or substance. They have a preconceived solut
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Monday, October 31, 2011

Fw: H-ASIA: Hip-hop dance in Asia and its Diasporas (reply)

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From: "Frank Conlon" <conlon@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
To: <H-ASIA@H-NET.MSU.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:39 AM
Subject: H-ASIA: Hip-hop dance in Asia and its Diasporas (reply)


> H-ASIA
> October 31, 2011
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> Reply to query on Hip-hop dance in Asia and its Diasporas
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> From: glafitte@aanet.com.au
>
> Lots of good contemporary Tibetan hip hop at:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDwahj8_hhg
>
> Karma Emchi, the onscreen hip hopper, uses hip hop as the medium to
> gently urge fellow Tibetans to speak pure Tibetan, and maintain
> Tibetan identity.
>
> Gabriel Lafitte
> Monash University>
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